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Re: Bitches
One more stupid comment like that and I WILL change the password. -Wanda re: the truth
did your boyfriend tell you you could say that? The truth
You bitches are just lucky we men invented the pill in the first place. Otherwise you'd be at home raising our kids instead of stealing our jobs.
think tank = maclaren inside joke = nobody else on this site ever. roll call?
donde esta ThinkTank Island????
Carlson
Rumour has it Carlsons GM was on the judges panel.
Bell is having a complete shutdown since all the creatives at Maclaren who THOUGHT they were number one are calling their headhunters to get them in at Cossette Carlson
I think they did those alesse ads. Carlson
I always liked Mr Carlson as boss at WKRP - nice to see he has an ad agency now! marketing top 10 agencies
Carlson Marketing #8
who the fuck knew???
who did they suck off for that?
can anyone name an ad they did? newsflash
Elian returns to Cuba. World did not end. re: slurpy hummers
pick an offsite, pick 2 drunks. presto.
DIRK GOT VOTED OFF THE ISLAND!!!!
who did get the slurpy hummer?
I AM
doing plain things in plain places with plain people. Every day Canada Day? I don't fucking think so, maybe every third Wednesday but that's it. Oh, and calling someone "cuntface"is both boring and rather uninspired. C'mon, if you're going to call people names, be a wee bit more creative. he he he
I dont know who the best gaffer is, but I can certainly tell you whos the "best boy" Get over it.
Oh, you boys always want to change the subject when we talk about girl stuff. Yeah, youre right, we should talk about farting again. teabaggers
Who's the best gaffer in town? I needs to know. SIDELINE WANKERS
Sorry the Allesse debate's not as stimulating as "hey guess who got a slurpy hummer at the creative department offsite" but I'm sick of clueless wankers who are trashing the Alesse stuff. Is the creative great? No. Is the ad insulting to women? Please fuck off. It's an extremely difficult product to advertise - a million regulations. They tried to have some semblance of an idea in the ads, but failed. Let's move on. The ads suck, not because the creatives suck, but because the tiny box they're in sucks. So that's the last I'm gonna say about Alesse. You proved me right
Well, it's not surprising someone who wrote and ad that insulting to women would use the lovely term 'cunt face'. You obviously have a lot of respect for us. HAPPY BIRTHDAY CANADA!
Fuck yeah! Happy Canada day! And my first request for Canada day is, take that fucking Molson Canadian ad off the air! Re:Re: Shut up.
Go fuck yourself cunt face. You are talking about my ad. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENt
I know what you did last night, and it didn't involve sex with mangoes.
Come, my friends, and see what transpired in episode five.
Can Gervase fuck up yet another challenge and meet his fate?
Has Dirk officially pissed everyone off with his retarded inventions?
Will Colleen and Greg have hot sweaty jungle sex?
You wish, but shall you receive?
BYOL(lunch!!)
12 PM on ThinkTank Island
My new creed.
SHOULDN'T EVERY DAY BE CANADA DAY? Re: Shut up
Youre just upset cause were not talking about YOUR ad. Either that, or the debate has gotten beyond your skill level. Tell me what you've done lately, I'd be glad to trash it. Shut up. Shut up.
No more. Please stop talking about Allesse. You people who care suck. Stop it. Talk about another ad. Talk about people fucking each other. Talk about poor little Elian. JUST STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT LAME AD! Alesse Again.
Well, I don't think its as simple as saying its a crap ad or a good ad. I think why this debate has caught or collective attentions is, were talking about a drug here. Specifically, a birth control drug. And as a woman who actually takes oral contraceptives, I find it insulting to have them sold to me through an 'image' campaign. I should be taking the contraceptive that is most effective for my body chemistry, not the one I think is 'coolest'. I agree with the person who said 'when you had the choice between saying what it does or showing it, why did you go with showing it?'. Because, the benefit of oral contraceptives is, 99% of the time, YOU DONT GET FUCKING PREGNANT. I think that's a pretty relevant benefit, dont you? Why are you insulting my intelligence with some crap image campaign? Is it because you secretly wish you were working on beer or soda, and want to treat your drug ads like they were simple packaged goods? I don't care how crap your clients are, how many hoops you have to jump through, and how much legal copy you have to put in - Its a fucking DRUG, not a candy bar. And taking the WRONG one because you liked the ad could lead to an unwanted pregnancy, which isn't funny or cool at all. OKAY?
aye....ouch
Everyone who's hungover today, say AYE!
Rudy wins! Rudy wins!
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re: Like I said...
Why don't you stop wasting everyone's time with this boring Allesse shit. You obviously stink. A bad ad is a bad ad. Period. A good ad is a good ad. Period. Whether it's beer, nose medicine or short man's clothing. So fuck off.
The last thing I will say about that.
"The consumer is not an idiot, the consumer is your wife" or in this case your slutty daughter.
Again I ask, is there anyone over 12 on this site?
PS quit whining. It so hard working on pharmaceuticals, oh you don;t know what's its like, oh my ass hurts from bending over for the client
PPS the farting icon was beautiful, everyone should have a fart joke on their reel, or at least strive for one
like I said...
Work on the stuff, then come debate it. It's a completely different world. It's not fucking condom advertising; it's a PRESCRIPTION DRUG. A hundred thousand more regulations than beer, which in itself is now a hundred thousand times easier to get stuff through than it was only 2 or 3 years ago. (he says, wandering off topic) A great deal of today's Canadian (country not brand) beer and liquor ads would have been laughed out of the room by all the liquorboards across the country. Anyways - I don't like the Allesse ads any more than anyone else, but who the fuck knows what they went through to get to that particular creative. And finally, BITCHING ABOUT SPELLING MISTAKES AND TYPOS IS A WASTE OF ALL OUR TIME SO FUCK OFF. thanks. Thank you
Someone out there is not a complete idiot...for the record I haven't written and pharmo ads...but I've worked on beer and the regulations there are no where near the shite you've got to deal with prescription drugs, so being to the point and all that other crap when writing Alesse ads is out of the question because of the number of hoops one has to jump through to get the shit approved...so get over it shite or not these ads have totally hit the mark and whoever out there is totally slamming them because the aren't "straight forward", don't be so insulting to the publics intelligence for not all, but only most, consumer are idiots...and yes I defy y'all to name a "good client". Man some of you are so freaking pedestrian...try reading what is actually posted instead of...oh shit there's a car on fire outside...cool! reactine/allegra
re: reactine and allegra. They're OverTheCounter not prescription drugs. Different (less stringent) regs. and the farting icon man was the most heinous piece of muddled rude dogshit since Russel Oliver got tights. Alesse
Yes there are a ton of regulations around Pharmaceutical ads. Yes the clients are a crowd of shits (on that topic, find me one client who isn't a complete fuck will ya?). But lets face it the Alesse ads are crap. If you had to pick between showing the thing or telling what it does, why the fuck did you choose to show it? Is that a selling feature? Is some woman going to look at your packaging and say "Hey those pills are Cooooool"? The ads suck because they're vague - not coy. Whatever happened to finding a cool/interesting/direct/clever/imaginative way to tell someone that your shit is better/cheaper/cooler than the other guys?? That IS what we do right? Allesse redux
So I was trying to figure out this thing last weekend and decided the copy is actually just literal translations:
"Don't wait by the phone -- get an answering machine"
translates to: "Don't wait for him to buy condoms, get on the pill.
"No one notices how you arrive -- it's how you leave".
translates to: "He doesn't care if you come, just so you don't leave knocked up."
Now, why the hot girl in the first ad is all dressed to go out but in wooly socks, and why the girl in the second ad went home alone, in a cab, probably without getting laid, I have no clue... Alesse
Regulations are one thing. Shitty ideas and a nasty strategy are another. Just because there are a ton of regulations doesn't mean the idea has to suck shit. Alesse = one big honkin' smelly turd. RE:Alesse: Bullshit
Before you bitch, learn to spell. Damn students.
Reactine: funny? Now THAT'S funny.
Alesse:
Bullshit I seem to remember a swimming icon farting for reactine, and the first ragweed stuff form them with the HariChrishnas bit showed the product and told what it did AND was funny.
You need to firs your suits becasue they don;t have the balls to stand up to your lamo clients.
Re: drug advertising
Until you actually have been briefed on, worked on, presented, and produced work in this category you should shut the fuck up. It's full full full full full of nitpicky regulatory shit, not to mention clients from hell. Don't compare Canada to Europe because the laws of what can air are entirely different. Look at drug ads from the U.S. - 29 seconds of legal copy. Alesse
What no one seems to understand is the fact that there are regulations that govern what can and can not be said in pharmacuetical advertising...you can either show the product, or blatantly say what it does and not show the product...the laws in Canada differ from those south of the border or from Europe. Just another thing that makes us distinctly Canadian and anal. With that in mind the Alesse stuff should take on a bit of a different spin...considering. And I think I just wrote the new Canadian spot...quick someone tell Glenn to log on.
ALesse: it doesn't suck, but its not good advertising. with shit like birth control just say it. why are we so afraid to say what the product does?
the best ads are the ones that actually say something. unless of course your lee clow and have MMs to spend on production and music.
By the way is there anyone on this site over 12?
Re: Giant Hoots
Speaking of hooters, we really needed that Hooters commercial with the guys stranded on the desert island. New millennium my [sweet] ass.
The Alesse campaign is typical mediocre Canadian crap. When you look at the advertising for birth control in Europe, it's not even in the same stratosphere. Actually I didn't do it...
I didn't write the Alesse stuff, but I do understand the message. What would you do to sell this stuff...perhaps show a black and white image of a kid being beaten or raped by their father/uncle, yeah that's thought provoking...oh wait, you must work on that Roger's stuff, yeah you're great! Re: Bush
Oh, good ... the first year Seneca students found us. Hey!
I'm new to this site. Do you guys like talking about bush? Chupa Things
Hey, FCB -- I've got a few executions you might want to use to reach your target: 1/ put that slab of tongue in a Thai sex club. 2/ In an ambulance, hooked up to an EKG. 3/ In a Parkdale crack house. 4/ In a prison shower. You're welcome. PS -- whatever happened to your catshit Levis ads? Or were you hoping they'd just disappear? WE WILL REMEMBER! I PROMISE!
The person(s) defending the Allese campaign sounds like the fucking team that wrote it. Look, it's shit okay? Ads are like jokes, if you have to explain them, theyy ain't funny. The Allese stuff is shit. The fact that it's pharmacutical advertising doesn't excuse it. If you're going to play in the mainstream game you gonna by held to the high teabagger standards. Word.
Allesse?!!
Allesse is the birth control pill? OH MY GOD! I've been taking ALEGRA instead! Allese my ASS
Call me crazy, but I just think birth control should be sold to teens on the fact that it prevents pregnancy better than asking daddy to pull out, or douching with Pepsi -- not on some sort of concocted cool "image" campaign. Allesse
They'll remember how you Arrive if you have, like, really HUGE melons...right? Nice ass, of course. But what if she's got REEEAAALLLY BIG TITS, you know. You'll notice her then, right? I mean, I'm right about the GIGANTIC FUCKING HOOTS, aren't I? Alesse
"No one remembers how you arrive. It's how you leave." Because that's when they all say "Nice ass". Another way to look at it
The allesse (sp?) is not that bad when you remember that it's pharmacutical advertising...and the brief is also somewhat insightful...don't trust men...it should be a given that we all use a fucking condom in this day and age, but shit happens right? So don't put all your trust into a piece of rubber? You've picked out a couple of shitty lines to slam this campaign. There are others, like "don't lend him anything you want to get back", like a baby free womb perhaps...teenage pregnancy is on the rise and we don't really need another generation of welfare baby's to feed or beat off the steps of Queen's park. I say congrats to the team on being able to make some half decent ads...maybe I've gotten a little political, but the real question is...is it talking to the target...any women out there with a comment. Alesse
Yeah, that stuff has been giving me the creeps too. Its basically taking excerpts from "The Rules" and telling teenage girls "The Rules" of dating/picking up strange men. The payoff? Alesse is a birth control pill. Theres just something very wrong about that. "Always leave something to the imagination"...like whether or not you'll get AIDS by not wearing a condom. Screw This "Let's Help Each Other" Bullshit ...
... I wanna trash some ads. Like: what the fuck's up with that Alesse crap? It looks like an oral contraceptive, but what are the headlines supposed to mean? "Always leave something to the imagination. Be Mysterious." ?!?!? Does that mean "don't answer him if he asks you if you're on the pill"? Chicks? Help me out ... Directorial talent
Any outstanding up & comers. I know jordan Toms will be really good, anyone else? F-F-F-F-fleurrrrrrrry
aaaahhhh i forgot about David Fleury. I thought he was fucken wicked to work with. Amazing music, super super nice guy. http://www.boardsmag.com/linksdirectory/
This will link you to a great list of billions of post houses, ad agencies, animation places, etc etc etc bla bla bla...love, the tooth fairy xo Music Houses
The Einsteins have by far the biggest upside potential. They can wow you like no one else. Not to mention Jody's one of the greatest guys going. Same to be said for Rocco.
David Fleury, if you can get him, is super nice and joins the Einsteins as one of the elite music houses in the city. He's pretty selective, therefore your spot's pretty good and he'll work that extra bit to made it sound phenomenal.
Great Big's good but you gotta work 'em a bit. Tom Thorney's an outstanding guy who'll work 'til you get what you're looking for.
Louder's good & solid as well.
Rosnick - a cold day in hell.
Armes - a freezing cold day in hell. re: music houses
The fellas at Louder are a fine bunch of folk. The only drag with using Jodi at the Einsteins is if he has 2 or 3 or 127 sessions going on at the same time and yours is one of them. DaBitch
Yes, acttually the hostess of DaBitch IS in Cannes, that's why its been slow over there. Another reason is, she's spending more timne here than on her own site lately!
Old guys fighting is funny. I saw some old guys fighting up in Northern Ontario once. It was hilarious. The just kinda bounced their fists off each other. Nobody got hurt physically but man!, the beating they took on their egos. Thing of beauty. And they screamed at one another a whole lot, too.
For those of you who are idiots, that was a reference to the "who's fighting Prouk this week" deal.
Anyway, glad to see some legit debate on the site (who's the best sound guys whatnot). I think we can all use this thing to learn more about the community. Instead of bitching like a bunch of fucking '70's secretaries.
Gary Prouk's out creating more horrific milk ads for I can't even remember who and/or having lunch with all those VIP's whose names he drops every 7 seconds so he's too busy to use all them there fancy words in letters to the editor.
Rocco rocks! He is Jodi's long-lost son. Check his driver's licence.
Ted Rosnick's okay to work with but man is it ever a drag to get music presented to you by Steve McKinnon. He plays it for you and then condescendingly shits on any of your comments like some uppity fuck as if you don't know a fuckn' thing about music. No thanks, Mozart. Not like the super nice folks at Great Big Music who are fuckn' great to work with.
Way to go Bill Parker fella!
Taking shots at Gary Prouk in the back of Marketing. It's been 3 weeks with out a entry from Gary. I was going through withdrawal. Watch for it next week. Let the verbal farting begin. Dabitch=dadead
There doesn't seem to have been an entries over there in weeks...either they've all come here, bailed, or they were all in cannes in which case they rule and this place sucks. Black-listed
Who else is black-listed, I've only got the grey-list. I want to upgrade but don't know who to fuck!
re-music
What about fat Teddy boy (have you seen my 4 hour reel, why don't we work together, I've been black listed by your producer, I can't do it for that measley budget, whine, whine, whine) Rosnick? Pirate vs Einstein
Does Rick Sherman take polaroids of you wearing funny hats? Nooo. Does he play Nintendo boxing with you? Nooo. Does he give you good inside gossip? Noooo. Does he laugh at your jokes? Does he buy you Kinder Eggs? Nooo. And as for Terry, he's a good guy, but you can see where my heart lies... on Jodi Colero's stache! Re: Slurpy
Shut your craw!
Oh shit theres a car on fire outside, too cool! The smoke is enveloping the giant inflatable Nescafe coffee cup on Queens Key! BURN BABY BURN!!!! Zwieg
Definitely a good guy, I simply wish I was able to throw some work his way, but the bastards at Pirate have their tongues stuck up my agency's ass so far they can taste the ice cream my producer stole from me at lunch. EINSTEIN LOVE
Jodi Colero kicks ass, and has a stylin' stache! But please don't use him, Im tired of him being booked everytime I call. also that Rocco, he's full of the love too. It's all good. Music houses
Michael Zweig at Candy Sound is pretty good too. Unlike Robert "Jinglemeister" Armes
top 3 music houses
#1 great big
#2 einstein
#3 louder
Slurpy has no opinions. Boo hoo! Waaah! Slurpy has nothing intelligent to say or ask so Slurpy says he or she is going to go to da bitch from now on. Well, on behalf of eveyone else here, thanks for fucking off and taking your non-contributing ass with you.
BMW
I see in today's BadNews (that lovely waste of 3 pages of fax paper every morning) that BMW has a new campaign out. All I can say is it's pretty obvious that Aldo has pictures of the BMW president fucking a goat. Slurpy says...
Well, now that I've seen what's gone on today on this site, I have to agree with that moron who's been calling for it to be shut down. It no longer holds a practical purpose. I'm going to DaBitch from now on. Who's in?
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BRILLIANT MOLSON MOVE NUMBER 478
CBC SPORTS ONLINE - The storied Montreal Canadiens, winners of 24 Stanley Cups, are on the auction block.
Canadian brewery giant Molson Inc. said Tuesday it intends to sell a controlling stake in the team, although it promised to make the team's stay in Montreal a condition of any deal.
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Fucken idiots. A few bad seasons and they run screaming. Canadian Tire will buy them and then they'll be called the Montreal Canadian Tires. Just you wait.
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